| 2017-08-10 21:02:32 | <pippin> does anyone have updates on progress for the sevilla bid? |
| 2017-08-10 21:03:26 | <sanguivor> ankh: Ah, ok. |
| 2017-08-10 21:03:59 | <houz> pippin: no |
| 2017-08-10 21:04:19 | <a-l-e---> hi |
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| 2017-08-10 21:10:16 | <a-l-e---> ale should be joining... |
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| 2017-08-10 21:11:10 | <a-l-e---> so it's 10 past and if we ant to stay in the 30 minutes... |
| 2017-08-10 21:12:09 | <pippin> well, I have one other item for the agenda as well :) |
| 2017-08-10 21:13:05 | <houz> shoot |
| 2017-08-10 21:13:16 | <pippin> we should switch the website from highlighting rio sooner rather later even if we do not know where we'll be |
| 2017-08-10 21:13:17 | <a-l-e---> the other ale has prepared a draft document... |
| 2017-08-10 21:13:57 | <houz> https://hackmd.io/GYDgnATGCMDGBsBaEBTArLRAWAhvEiARgMwAMS00x0waAJgOzRMNA===?both |
| 2017-08-10 21:14:02 | <houz> ^ that one? |
| 2017-08-10 21:14:37 | <a-l-e---> i haven't clicked but looks like that one. |
| 2017-08-10 21:14:55 | <houz> it still seems to have some unfinished parts |
| 2017-08-10 21:15:05 | <a-l-e---> yes, it's not finished yet. |
| 2017-08-10 21:15:25 | <houz> that being said, i like the flair of the two city center locations, even if space is scarce there |
| 2017-08-10 21:15:31 | <houz> it looks comfy |
| 2017-08-10 21:15:55 | <a-l-e---> yes, it won't be a traditional lgm with an auditorium, so we will have to organize the event in a different way. |
| 2017-08-10 21:16:03 | <a-l-e---> more oriented on working together. |
| 2017-08-10 21:16:34 | <a-l-e---> and having talks that are well focused and do not risk to get too crowded (but are very interesting for those who are there : - ) |
| 2017-08-10 21:16:47 | <houz> sounds liek a win-win to me :D |
| 2017-08-10 21:17:43 | * alewwb (~alewwb@cpc99158-walt23-2-0-cust114.13-2.cable.virginm.net) has joined |
| 2017-08-10 21:18:03 | <a-l-e---> for the website: there is already a fresh wordpress for 2018... |
| 2017-08-10 21:18:14 | * a-l-e--- heißt jetzt a-l-e |
| 2017-08-10 21:18:27 | <alewwb> hi there |
| 2017-08-10 21:18:28 | <pippin> perhaps a bis if one reimagined the brussels lgm with 2/3rd the auditorium space,.. thus strengthening the hallway track |
| 2017-08-10 21:18:42 | <houz> do we have any entity that can write invoices or recipes? i wonder if one way to fund lgm would be to sell tickets. people would get nothing in return if they buy one, have no benefits and wouldn't be mentioned anywhere. it would however allow those that get sent by their employer (redhat, ...) to add some extra cost to their trip and help out |
| 2017-08-10 21:18:53 | <pippin> s/bis if/bit like if/ |
| 2017-08-10 21:19:02 | <houz> brussels was great |
| 2017-08-10 21:20:21 | <a-l-e> so, the "on topic" ale is now here : - ) |
| 2017-08-10 21:21:19 | <houz> hey :) |
| 2017-08-10 21:21:22 | <a-l-e> alewwb, this is what has been said until now: https://quotidien.framapad.org/p/CHbjpLYRxB |
| 2017-08-10 21:21:47 | <alewwb> thanks |
| 2017-08-10 21:21:55 | <houz> (complete logs will be made available on https://houz.org/LGM/2018/ afterwards) |
| 2017-08-10 21:23:27 | <alewwb> ok, I've read it |
| 2017-08-10 21:23:53 | <pippin> a-l-e: I think it would be good if we switch over to an empty/ghost-identiy wordpress with just the year - and maybe a link to the wiki, around a month after each lgm ends |
| 2017-08-10 21:24:48 | <a-l-e> pippin, i would prefer if we improve the lgm/ site and switch to it with a prominent link to the latest lgm |
| 2017-08-10 21:25:27 | <a-l-e> and then switch to the next one as soon as it is ready. |
| 2017-08-10 21:26:03 | <a-l-e> so, alewwb anything to say? : - ) |
| 2017-08-10 21:26:30 | <pippin> that also works, but with less direct incentive for the next year to improve the wordpress :) |
| 2017-08-10 21:26:46 | <alewwb> sorry guys, as I'm here in the chat I'm trying to create the grid of available spaces for the meeting |
| 2017-08-10 21:27:01 | <alewwb> because with that the discussion will be more productive |
| 2017-08-10 21:27:21 | <a-l-e> ok |
| 2017-08-10 21:27:29 | <a-l-e> should we do a 15 minutes break? |
| 2017-08-10 21:28:47 | <alewwb> no |
| 2017-08-10 21:28:53 | <alewwb> follow the conversation |
| 2017-08-10 21:28:55 | <alewwb> I'm ending |
| 2017-08-10 21:35:31 | <alewwb> I've updated the markdown |
| 2017-08-10 21:35:40 | <alewwb> with a image of a table |
| 2017-08-10 21:35:57 | <alewwb> you can see there the expected availability of the spaces during a weekend |
| 2017-08-10 21:37:29 | <houz> what are (T) and (A)? |
| 2017-08-10 21:37:31 | <alewwb> so, taking into account a LGM focused on small workgroups and specific presentations, that for me is quite fit for the characteristics of the proposal |
| 2017-08-10 21:37:33 | <alewwb> sorry |
| 2017-08-10 21:37:36 | <alewwb> T is Tramallol |
| 2017-08-10 21:37:39 | <alewwb> A is Anonima |
| 2017-08-10 21:37:43 | <alewwb> I forgot to put the legend |
| 2017-08-10 21:38:05 | <alewwb> do you think with these spaces we have a feasible proposal? |
| 2017-08-10 21:38:20 | <alewwb> or do we need more or diverse spaces in your opinion? |
| 2017-08-10 21:38:34 | <houz> it seems we always have a room for 60-70 people. that might work as the main lecture hall? |
| 2017-08-10 21:38:43 | <alewwb> not always |
| 2017-08-10 21:39:14 | <a-l-e> (the "no projection" is because there is too much light in the room...) |
| 2017-08-10 21:39:19 | <alewwb> that room has some specificities |
| 2017-08-10 21:39:41 | <alewwb> it's situated in an open space connected to the main labour space in Tramallol |
| 2017-08-10 21:40:01 | <alewwb> so I think it would be kind not to use it in the mornings of working days |
| 2017-08-10 21:40:11 | <houz> does it have chairs/tables? |
| 2017-08-10 21:40:14 | <alewwb> yes |
| 2017-08-10 21:40:22 | <alewwb> a lot of chairs |
| 2017-08-10 21:40:38 | <alewwb> I think we can sort it out to get tables |
| 2017-08-10 21:40:41 | <alewwb> if needed |
| 2017-08-10 21:40:50 | <alewwb> it's not a big deal |
| 2017-08-10 21:40:59 | <houz> nah, i guess chairs are fine for lectures |
| 2017-08-10 21:41:16 | <alewwb> the other specificity is that in the mornings that room has a lot of sunlight |
| 2017-08-10 21:41:26 | <alewwb> it might difficult projections |
| 2017-08-10 21:42:02 | <alewwb> but the space in Anonima is same as big and we don't have any problem in there with light or compatibility of uses |
| 2017-08-10 21:42:19 | <alewwb> so max availability would be |
| 2017-08-10 21:42:34 | <alewwb> two big rooms plus a medium and a small ones |
| 2017-08-10 21:42:36 | <a-l-e> i think that we can have three types of spaces: chairs for conferences; sofas (and some tables) for small talk; and chairs with tables for doing real work (and eventually workshops) |
| 2017-08-10 21:43:19 | <a-l-e> one big room for confs; one big room mixed sofas + tables; one small room for working? |
| 2017-08-10 21:43:24 | <a-l-e> woudl that work? |
| 2017-08-10 21:43:37 | <alewwb> yes |
| 2017-08-10 21:43:43 | <alewwb> anonima for conferences |
| 2017-08-10 21:43:47 | <houz> the 2nd oen would be similar to the top floor in brussels then? hanging out and talking |
| 2017-08-10 21:43:52 | <alewwb> tramallol big room for workshops |
| 2017-08-10 21:44:01 | <alewwb> tramallol medium and small room for small talks |
| 2017-08-10 21:44:17 | <alewwb> sorry houz |
| 2017-08-10 21:44:23 | <alewwb> I didnt' understand you |
| 2017-08-10 21:44:28 | <alewwb> oen? |
| 2017-08-10 21:44:48 | <houz> i was refereing to a-l-e' enumeration |
| 2017-08-10 21:44:58 | <houz> s/oen/one/ |
| 2017-08-10 21:45:17 | <alewwb> ;) |
| 2017-08-10 21:45:40 | <alewwb> both spaces are quite cozy and very suitable for that kind of atmosphere |
| 2017-08-10 21:48:05 | <a-l-e> personally, i think if the informations above in the proposal we're close to be ready and propose it to the lgm people for discussion. |
| 2017-08-10 21:48:59 | <alewwb> for the opening I think we can manage a lecture room in an University building |
| 2017-08-10 21:49:35 | <a-l-e> ... if needed... yes... having that option would be interesting! |
| 2017-08-10 21:49:46 | <alewwb> yes, if needed |
| 2017-08-10 21:50:12 | <alewwb> yes, it can be even interesting because it can call the attention of communication students |
| 2017-08-10 21:50:18 | <a-l-e> maybe having a really room for 2 to 4 hours at the beginning could be nice. introductory talk, state of the union and maybe some sort of keynote. |
| 2017-08-10 21:51:03 | <alewwb> could Anonima space be that one? |
| 2017-08-10 21:51:08 | <alewwb> there's a picture in the markdown |
| 2017-08-10 21:52:00 | <a-l-e> yeah it could also be. |
| 2017-08-10 21:52:01 | <houz> thing is, university is a bit away, so having a talk there and then all of us moving over is a little inconvenient |
| 2017-08-10 21:52:17 | <alewwb> you're right |
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| 2017-08-10 21:55:48 | <a-l-e> pippin, do you also have questions? |
| 2017-08-10 21:55:56 | <a-l-e> remarks? |
| 2017-08-10 22:01:21 | <pippin> the proposal is starting to look promising, :) a though though: perhaps the opening of lgm could be an afternoon in a university, with a social event in the evening of what will be the venue the rest of the days? |
| 2017-08-10 22:01:41 | <pippin> s/of what will be/at what will be/ |
| 2017-08-10 22:02:10 | <houz> that makes more sense, we wouldn't have to switch places during the day |
| 2017-08-10 22:02:50 | <pippin> and registration/opening in the afternoon makes it possible for some to fly in the day it starts, rather than the day before |
| 2017-08-10 22:03:02 | <alewwb> what kind of social event? |
| 2017-08-10 22:05:05 | <a-l-e> well, we are social people... |
| 2017-08-10 22:05:09 | <a-l-e> somehow :-) |
| 2017-08-10 22:06:13 | <pippin> alewwb: anything from being a meeting up point for going for food/drinks, to possibly having a small reception at the venue with a minimal self catered coffee/tea/beer and hanging out there if possible |
| 2017-08-10 22:06:31 | <a-l-e> but a social event might just a place we know it's big enough to fit many people and tell them people that they can get there in the evening. |
| 2017-08-10 22:06:44 | <a-l-e> or something like pipppin is suggesting. |
| 2017-08-10 22:06:55 | <alewwb> no problem |
| 2017-08-10 22:07:01 | <alewwb> just trying to imagine |
| 2017-08-10 22:07:08 | <alewwb> Tramallol can be perfect for that |
| 2017-08-10 22:07:22 | <alewwb> we have a small bar and a kitchen there |
| 2017-08-10 22:07:42 | <a-l-e> i also thought it could be possible :-) |
| 2017-08-10 22:11:17 | <a-l-e> anyway, yes, starting on an afternoon @ the university might be an option. |
| 2017-08-10 22:11:46 | <a-l-e> if we don't need it or if it cannot be done, the lgm will be at the two locations only. |
| 2017-08-10 22:13:32 | <a-l-e> alewwb, do you need more input for finalizing the proposal? |
| 2017-08-10 22:13:44 | <alewwb> no, I don't think so |
| 2017-08-10 22:13:54 | <houz> we should make sure people register early on so we can do some educated guesses there |
| 2017-08-10 22:13:56 | <a-l-e> i should be online tomorrow for most part of the day. |
| 2017-08-10 22:14:08 | <alewwb> ok |
| 2017-08-10 22:14:43 | <a-l-e> but not in the evening |
| 2017-08-10 22:15:24 | <alewwb> ;) |
| 2017-08-10 22:16:21 | <a-l-e> i can review your proposal and then i think it's time for submitting it to the lgm mailing list! |
| 2017-08-10 22:17:22 | <alewwb> ok |
| 2017-08-10 22:18:00 | <a-l-e> ok, time to shut down for me! |
| 2017-08-10 22:25:01 | <alewwb> I'm leaving as well |
| 2017-08-10 22:25:37 | <pippin> thanks for the updates :) |
| 2017-08-10 22:25:51 | <alewwb> thanks for your feedback!! |
| 2017-08-10 22:25:58 | <alewwb> it's quite precious |
| 2017-08-10 22:26:00 | <alewwb> ;) |
| 2017-08-10 22:26:26 | <a-l-e> good night! |
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