**** BEGINNE LOGBUCH UM Wed Jan 8 17:29:53 2014 | |
2014-01-08 17:29:53 | * Du sprichst jetzt in #LGM2014 |
2014-01-08 17:59:00 | * F_S (~fs@77.109.117.114.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net) hat #LGM2014 betreten |
2014-01-08 18:03:16 | * gnokii (~gnokii@fedora/gnokii) hat #LGM2014 betreten |
2014-01-08 18:04:17 | <F_S> hey, good evening |
2014-01-08 18:04:52 | <houz> hi |
2014-01-08 18:05:04 | <houz> for the record, i am logging again |
2014-01-08 18:05:30 | <pippin> it seems like not even 50% of the people that volunteered to help out in madrid are present; I presume everyone who were there are subscribed to the lgm list |
2014-01-08 18:06:02 | <F_S> yes. i mailed each team to confirm their interest/availability |
2014-01-08 18:06:17 | <F_S> a few weeks ago, most answered 'yes' |
2014-01-08 18:06:38 | <pippin> I guess I somehow called for this meeting (as well as recurring (hopefully short) weekly meetings from now on) |
2014-01-08 18:06:47 | <gnokii> well in .vn its in the middle of the night |
2014-01-08 18:06:47 | <pippin> F_S: what are the teams; and do they have leaders? |
2014-01-08 18:06:55 | <F_S> we did not set leaders |
2014-01-08 18:07:15 | <F_S> content team, finances, communication, local team, trvel assistance |
2014-01-08 18:07:30 | <F_S> finances = sponsoring |
2014-01-08 18:07:34 | <pippin> thus .. nobody feels really responsible for the teams efforts :] |
2014-01-08 18:07:51 | <F_S> let me find back list who committed |
2014-01-08 18:07:58 | <houz> http://houz.org/LGM/wiki/LGM2014:Teams |
2014-01-08 18:08:06 | <F_S> thanks! |
2014-01-08 18:08:27 | <F_S> well some of us do feel responsible ;-) |
2014-01-08 18:09:22 | <pippin> (note: I have to leave at start time+60min) |
2014-01-08 18:09:28 | <gnokii> now thats the main problem of lgm |
2014-01-08 18:10:08 | <pippin> nah; I think lack of communication is a bigger problem (amplified by lack of "heads") |
2014-01-08 18:10:27 | <gnokii> all like to help with discussions but not if it comes down to work |
2014-01-08 18:11:53 | <F_S> ok so what work can we get done this upcoming hour and what can we get done until next meeting? |
2014-01-08 18:12:28 | <houz> a first step migth be to get some status updates from the different teams |
2014-01-08 18:12:35 | <F_S> ok good idea |
2014-01-08 18:13:00 | <F_S> 5 mins per team max? |
2014-01-08 18:13:27 | <houz> max |
2014-01-08 18:13:34 | <pippin> gnokii: for me, sending emails to the mailinglist is painful expenditure of energy I'd rather avoid |
2014-01-08 18:13:41 | * gnokii just makes a notice that he is doing 3 meetings right now |
2014-01-08 18:14:01 | <F_S> pippin: agree |
2014-01-08 18:14:15 | <F_S> ok, a-l-e is here for infrastructure |
2014-01-08 18:14:40 | <gnokii> did I got that right u mean the lgm list? |
2014-01-08 18:15:13 | * patdavid sits back to watch. |
2014-01-08 18:15:20 | <F_S> following order on http://houz.org/LGM/wiki/LGM2014:Teams |
2014-01-08 18:16:03 | <F_S> a-l-e ? |
2014-01-08 18:16:10 | <pippin> gnokii: yes - I am not a native english speaker; and a diagnosed dyslectic - writing email takes me ~10x as long as for many native english speakers |
2014-01-08 18:17:01 | <gnokii> pippin, I can accept non native speakers, I am surly one who not always plays the grammar nazi ;) |
2014-01-08 18:17:46 | * F_S is always impressed with pippin mails |
2014-01-08 18:17:47 | <pippin> gnokii: when I write email, I rewrite most things 5 or 6 times, IRC works better for me |
2014-01-08 18:17:48 | <houz> let's stay on subject. this isn't the time to blame each other but to make things better |
2014-01-08 18:17:59 | <F_S> houz agree |
2014-01-08 18:18:07 | <houz> a-l-e: are you around? |
2014-01-08 18:18:34 | <F_S> reminder: have a shouting session in Leipzig |
2014-01-08 18:18:38 | <houz> doesn't seem so. let's move on, infrastructure is working basically and he can give updates later if he shows up |
2014-01-08 18:18:45 | <F_S> ok good |
2014-01-08 18:18:46 | <F_S> o |
2014-01-08 18:18:50 | <F_S> so communication |
2014-01-08 18:18:56 | <pippin> agree, just stating that what constitutes "work" and "discussion" or contribution of energy (in whichever direction) isn't objective |
2014-01-08 18:19:21 | <F_S> so basically you have been doing this on your own gnokii |
2014-01-08 18:19:23 | <F_S> ? |
2014-01-08 18:19:36 | <gnokii> I have done what? |
2014-01-08 18:19:39 | <patdavid> i can chime in with comm. stuff if it helps |
2014-01-08 18:19:45 | <F_S> communication, website stuff |
2014-01-08 18:19:50 | <F_S> patdavid: that would be great |
2014-01-08 18:19:59 | <patdavid> gnokii has been directing me to write various posts on the website as needed |
2014-01-08 18:20:11 | <gnokii> no patdavid does it, and he does an amazing job I just say to him please write and he does it |
2014-01-08 18:20:15 | <F_S> ah good thanks for that! |
2014-01-08 18:20:26 | <patdavid> i don't know about amazing, but i'm trying |
2014-01-08 18:20:46 | <patdavid> i have to make a slight transition to writing style to accomodate the fact that it's 'from' LGM, as opposed to personal posts |
2014-01-08 18:20:52 | <F_S> happy to hear |
2014-01-08 18:20:52 | <gnokii> I am not a native speaker as well and I learned to speak russian at school not english ;) |
2014-01-08 18:21:24 | <patdavid> i feel like the information could be disseminated better through other networks/media, though |
2014-01-08 18:21:42 | <F_S> so for communication, short term ... where can we make an effect/where do we need to push hardest |
2014-01-08 18:21:46 | <patdavid> i've posted announcements as GIMP on G+ for instance, and where I can in my own social circles |
2014-01-08 18:21:52 | <F_S> me too |
2014-01-08 18:22:03 | <gnokii> patdavid: yes but lgm pages must be the source |
2014-01-08 18:22:17 | <patdavid> gnokii: yep, i always reference the LGM pages |
2014-01-08 18:22:19 | <gnokii> a lot of journalists want to see it on the pages |
2014-01-08 18:22:27 | <pippin> on communication, I've heard rumors that some people even thought LGM might not happen this year - based on our discussion on the lgm list... that should be denounced |
2014-01-08 18:22:28 | <F_S> i have many people excited about coming, entering proposals (counted 11 today) |
2014-01-08 18:22:32 | <houz> what i noticed when talking to random people from other projects that i asked if they intend to come is "lgm? what is that?". outside of the world of regulars it's quite unknown, so having more communication to the outside would be nice |
2014-01-08 18:23:03 | <patdavid> is there a plan for disseminating this to larger publishing venues? magazines? other big websites? |
2014-01-08 18:23:20 | <F_S> pippin: i agree. it has not sent out good impressions so was thinking to do a positive message to create etc. soon |
2014-01-08 18:23:42 | <gnokii> I have submitted to all possible floss news pages that are common in Germany |
2014-01-08 18:23:58 | <pippin> two of my live-coding friends (dave griffits and alex maclean) and have retweeted links to the call to their followers.. crossing fingers that either they or their followers submit something fun |
2014-01-08 18:24:00 | <patdavid> perhaps we can target nearby EU states as well? |
2014-01-08 18:24:02 | <F_S> houz any idea how to shift that with current team? |
2014-01-08 18:24:05 | <gnokii> http://www.linux-magazin.de/NEWS/Libre-Graphics-Meeting-2014-Call-for-Participation-gestartet |
2014-01-08 18:24:19 | <gnokii> http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/20520/libre-graphics-meeting-2014-sucht-nach-beitraegen.html |
2014-01-08 18:24:25 | <patdavid> excellent |
2014-01-08 18:24:30 | <gnokii> http://www.linux-community.de/Internal/Nachrichten/Auf-der-Suche-nach-Beitraegen-und-Hilfe2 |
2014-01-08 18:24:33 | <gnokii> more I cant do |
2014-01-08 18:24:34 | <houz> no one reads posts about events on news pages. we have to talk to the projects directly |
2014-01-08 18:24:35 | <patdavid> what about the blender folks, will they be present this year? |
2014-01-08 18:25:00 | <gnokii> yes |
2014-01-08 18:25:05 | <gnokii> and no |
2014-01-08 18:25:13 | <F_S> meaning? |
2014-01-08 18:25:15 | <patdavid> their community is large, i can see about getting word out with them as well? |
2014-01-08 18:25:23 | <F_S> patdavid: good |
2014-01-08 18:25:29 | <patdavid> ok |
2014-01-08 18:25:30 | <houz> http://houz.org/LGM/wiki/LGM2014:Projects <-- state of project approval as far as i know |
2014-01-08 18:25:32 | <gnokii> I spoke very public with them |
2014-01-08 18:26:59 | <F_S> spoke briefly to ton roosendaal a few weeks ago; problem is that now they prefer organising their own events. in 2010 they linked their meeting to lgm (but was still separate event) now it seems interest for that is gone |
2014-01-08 18:27:21 | <gnokii> there was a clear no to participate as Blender Foundation Ton said, the Blender Conference is enough, but there will be submissions about Blender from some Blender ppl |
2014-01-08 18:27:42 | <gnokii> F_S: we have done then the same thing :D |
2014-01-08 18:27:47 | <F_S> haha |
2014-01-08 18:27:58 | <F_S> or ton said the same thing to both of us ;-) |
2014-01-08 18:28:18 | <gnokii> F_S: I did it more tricky |
2014-01-08 18:28:20 | <F_S> but we have an interesting group here working on python for blender |
2014-01-08 18:28:29 | <pippin> back in the days of yore - gimp and blender had their own conferences. lgm has more or less fully replaced gimpcons |
2014-01-08 18:28:36 | <gnokii> Frederik already submitted |
2014-01-08 18:28:56 | <houz> did magiclantern submit by now? |
2014-01-08 18:29:00 | <gnokii> nope |
2014-01-08 18:29:01 | <houz> or should i ping them again |
2014-01-08 18:29:03 | <houz> ok |
2014-01-08 18:29:12 | <F_S> so i try to see if i can get them in/on our van from bxl to leipzig |
2014-01-08 18:29:45 | <houz> nice. want to add them to the list? |
2014-01-08 18:30:21 | <pippin> do we have enough proposals in that it is interesting to publish a number on the website, well knowing that the majority of hacker-slackers will not submit until a couple of days before deadline? |
2014-01-08 18:30:27 | <gnokii> as it comes down to submissions I have one thing more |
2014-01-08 18:31:30 | <houz> gnokii: shoot |
2014-01-08 18:32:03 | <gnokii> I had a longer conversation today with HP and whats the status of GSoC students on LGM |
2014-01-08 18:32:24 | <houz> (HP == Hong Phuc) |
2014-01-08 18:32:38 | <gnokii> she said "You are organizer, u can provide them more time" |
2014-01-08 18:33:00 | <houz> provide more time? |
2014-01-08 18:33:04 | <F_S> eh meaning making a special slot? |
2014-01-08 18:33:05 | <gnokii> yes |
2014-01-08 18:33:13 | <pippin> GSoC/LGM are timed in such a way that only last years students are relevant |
2014-01-08 18:33:24 | <F_S> or postponing deadline? |
2014-01-08 18:33:40 | <houz> wasn't the idea to bring them there for meeting? i didn't understand it as if they had to give talks |
2014-01-08 18:33:45 | <pippin> in wroclaw GIMP brought along 2 students that would participate that year |
2014-01-08 18:33:55 | <F_S> ok, that is useful |
2014-01-08 18:34:02 | <gnokii> pippin: schumaml made a statement to it |
2014-01-08 18:34:08 | <F_S> so what is the issue with time? |
2014-01-08 18:34:34 | <gnokii> I pinged him 2 days ago, yesterday and today to solve his problem with as only GIMP and Inkscape are interested to do that |
2014-01-08 18:35:01 | <F_S> gnokii: what is the problem that needs to be solved? |
2014-01-08 18:35:18 | <gnokii> for Inkscape I have the names from Tav so I can work on the problem to get them to LGM, but I fear to get there submissions in 7 days is to short |
2014-01-08 18:35:44 | <pippin> I do not understand the importance of making the students speak |
2014-01-08 18:35:45 | <houz> what have the gsoc students to do with submissions? |
2014-01-08 18:35:49 | <pippin> it is important to bring them there |
2014-01-08 18:36:12 | <houz> exactly. the idea was to meet them in real life. even if it's just with a beer in a pub |
2014-01-08 18:36:19 | <pippin> (just like GIMP is trying to coerce new substantial contributors to turn up) |
2014-01-08 18:36:23 | <gnokii> pippin: well both speaking and bring them |
2014-01-08 18:36:28 | <F_S> also i would be totally ok to reserve certain slots for GSoC students, and to sidetrack submissions |
2014-01-08 18:37:04 | <pippin> if it is 2013 gsoc students, no special accomodation wrt call for content should be needed |
2014-01-08 18:37:10 | <houz> i don't think it would make very interesting talks. mostly "this is what i did in gsoc" |
2014-01-08 18:37:16 | <F_S> it depends a bit on the amount and quality of submissions, how much we are pressured for fitting all in a short amounf of time |
2014-01-08 18:37:17 | <pippin> 2014 gsoc students?... wouldn't we need a time machine? |
2014-01-08 18:37:40 | <F_S> submissions = overall proposals, not GSoC |
2014-01-08 18:38:34 | <houz> so, is there something about the gsoc folks that needs a decision? |
2014-01-08 18:38:56 | <F_S> houz it can be lightning talk style? it can help to give them visibility |
2014-01-08 18:38:58 | <gnokii> so it would be possible to reserve some time for them and give more time? |
2014-01-08 18:39:13 | <gnokii> F_S yeah thats what HP said also |
2014-01-08 18:39:15 | <F_S> i'd be ok. i think it is important they are there |
2014-01-08 18:39:20 | <pippin> strongly encourage lightning talks, as well as prioritize them wrt travel reimbursements? |
2014-01-08 18:39:32 | <F_S> and that the connection between GSoC and LGM is made clear |
2014-01-08 18:39:42 | <houz> i don't say they should be forbidden to give talks. i just don't even want to make them feel that they are supposed to give one. they are free, nothing more |
2014-01-08 18:39:45 | <pippin> (to agenda: what is going on with 2013 reimbursements?) |
2014-01-08 18:39:47 | <F_S> pippin: that is a different issue for me |
2014-01-08 18:39:57 | <F_S> reimbursements i mean |
2014-01-08 18:40:07 | <houz> i got my money |
2014-01-08 18:40:20 | <F_S> glad houz |
2014-01-08 18:40:20 | <gnokii> can I say something to gsoc and money? |
2014-01-08 18:40:23 | <houz> didn't google want to give some extra money for them? |
2014-01-08 18:40:32 | <F_S> would make sense ... |
2014-01-08 18:40:36 | <gnokii> they do |
2014-01-08 18:40:38 | <F_S> gnokii: yes! |
2014-01-08 18:40:44 | <houz> that pot of gold was the start of the idea about bringing them to lgm |
2014-01-08 18:40:57 | <F_S> ok so than there is no problem |
2014-01-08 18:41:02 | <gnokii> as I found out for each mentor as students are 500$ reserved to do what we want to do |
2014-01-08 18:41:08 | <F_S> if there is earmarked budget for them, go for it |
2014-01-08 18:41:18 | <houz> it was soemthign along the lines of "google has a budget for mentor/student meetings, let's ask them for something of that" |
2014-01-08 18:41:30 | <F_S> but was it asked and confirmed? |
2014-01-08 18:41:43 | <gnokii> that I have to find out |
2014-01-08 18:41:47 | <houz> mario brought that tpoic up in madrid and said he wanted to ask them |
2014-01-08 18:42:01 | * a-l-e was @ dinner... |
2014-01-08 18:42:06 | <houz> wb a-l-e |
2014-01-08 18:42:07 | <a-l-e> reading the log |
2014-01-08 18:42:10 | <F_S> hey welcome back |
2014-01-08 18:42:33 | <houz> so, are we done with CFP? |
2014-01-08 18:42:34 | <F_S> gnokii: can you try to find out about budget and we decide next week? |
2014-01-08 18:42:44 | <gnokii> I will do that |
2014-01-08 18:42:45 | <houz> only 20 minutes left until pippin needs to leave |
2014-01-08 18:42:46 | <F_S> about budget for GSoC? |
2014-01-08 18:42:54 | <F_S> deadline is agreed |
2014-01-08 18:42:57 | <gnokii> F_S: yes |
2014-01-08 18:43:00 | <F_S> ok |
2014-01-08 18:43:06 | <F_S> so spomsoring |
2014-01-08 18:43:14 | <F_S> hah sponsoring |
2014-01-08 18:43:23 | <gnokii> its me :D |
2014-01-08 18:43:27 | <houz> so, while we are at sponsoring: what is the general fiscal state? |
2014-01-08 18:43:30 | <F_S> apart from google. any news? |
2014-01-08 18:43:48 | <F_S> houz you mean tax deduction or general? |
2014-01-08 18:43:59 | <houz> in general |
2014-01-08 18:44:06 | <gnokii> GUUG gives us 1000€, RH gives us 1000$, Shuttleworth Fnd gives us until yet 2000€ |
2014-01-08 18:44:06 | <houz> how much do we have |
2014-01-08 18:44:28 | <houz> did louis or nathan secure any money? |
2014-01-08 18:44:33 | <F_S> and google 5000? 3000? (apart from GSoC?) |
2014-01-08 18:44:38 | <gnokii> good question |
2014-01-08 18:45:05 | <gnokii> F_S i dont know who spoke with google yet |
2014-01-08 18:45:10 | <F_S> not me ;-) |
2014-01-08 18:45:38 | <F_S> it is usually louis it seems |
2014-01-08 18:45:49 | <houz> F_S: do you know how much we spent for the last lgms? besides travel costs |
2014-01-08 18:45:49 | <F_S> it has been louis so far |
2014-01-08 18:45:53 | <gnokii> can I do a generally note to that topic? |
2014-01-08 18:46:28 | <F_S> houz can dig up overviews for lgms that i was co-organizing but they are not easy to compare |
2014-01-08 18:46:57 | <F_S> much of the money in madrid came through EU and we had to be rather creative to use it for LGM |
2014-01-08 18:46:59 | <gnokii> houz: that costs are high influenced from the location |
2014-01-08 18:47:16 | <F_S> gnokii: yes. height of costs but also kind of costs |
2014-01-08 18:47:19 | <houz> sure, but having a general overview would be nice |
2014-01-08 18:47:22 | <gnokii> +1 |
2014-01-08 18:47:32 | <F_S> ok, i can work on that as far as i know |
2014-01-08 18:47:42 | <F_S> and we can try to fill the holes |
2014-01-08 18:47:45 | <houz> which brings me to the next point. could we maybe start with this year to have a transparent and open accounting? |
2014-01-08 18:48:14 | <houz> if a sponsor doesn't want to get named we can put XXX in there |
2014-01-08 18:48:32 | <houz> but it would be nice to be able to tell how much LGM owns and if there are troubles |
2014-01-08 18:49:04 | <houz> the long time until reimbursements got out started a lot of rumors about lgm not having the money and just paying once the donations for next year came in |
2014-01-08 18:49:11 | <gnokii> and another thing to add on that, dividing pots isnt also a good idea |
2014-01-08 18:49:25 | <houz> i don't care if that was true, but i would like to make sure such a situation doesn't happen again |
2014-01-08 18:49:29 | <F_S> houz i agree. just know that lgm 2010 and 2013 were made possible by funding not passed through LGM account |
2014-01-08 18:49:54 | <houz> i don't know anything about past lgms |
2014-01-08 18:50:11 | <a-l-e> 2012 was made without money except account for reimboursement of travelling. |
2014-01-08 18:50:14 | <F_S> i mean to say: you need to keep in mind |
2014-01-08 18:50:22 | <houz> and with all events a lot of stuff happens behind closed doors and by moving money creatively i guess |
2014-01-08 18:50:50 | <pippin> gimp has bailed out lgm a couple of times to cover travel reimbursements as well |
2014-01-08 18:50:58 | <F_S> in 2010 and 2013 a lot of travel reimbursements where done directly by Constant / Medialab Prado |
2014-01-08 18:51:09 | <gnokii> yeah but thats not the task for GIMP |
2014-01-08 18:51:14 | <F_S> anyway, anything that we need to do urgently now / coming week? |
2014-01-08 18:51:18 | <F_S> need and can? |
2014-01-08 18:51:22 | <houz> and schumaml as representative of a major sponsor asked for a more open accounting, too |
2014-01-08 18:51:33 | <F_S> i am absolutely for that |
2014-01-08 18:51:57 | <gnokii> +1000 |
2014-01-08 18:52:06 | <houz> great. i would like to have a discussion round (maybe in a smaller setting) in leipzig, at the start of the event, about these things |
2014-01-08 18:52:18 | <pippin> more open accounting has been asked for, more open content selection has also been asked for - though the ones asking for that should join the ranks of NSA/GCHQ instead :p |
2014-01-08 18:52:20 | <houz> smaller as in "not the big lecture hall" |
2014-01-08 18:52:25 | <gnokii> at least for travel costs as we take there money from the community we should be more open |
2014-01-08 18:52:33 | <F_S> but first issue is: who will find out about about the current state of things so we can feel confident about accepting submissions trusting there will be money for reimbursements |
2014-01-08 18:53:08 | <F_S> or better: how can we find out |
2014-01-08 18:53:09 | <houz> until now the pledgie is still at 750USD |
2014-01-08 18:53:53 | * gnokii still waits for 2012 |
2014-01-08 18:54:36 | <F_S> who is in contact with louis about this? |
2014-01-08 18:54:45 | <houz> so i guess the idea of having pre-imbursements is off the table? |
2014-01-08 18:54:47 | <F_S> he confirmed to work on sponsoring this year |
2014-01-08 18:55:08 | <houz> at least for practical reasons |
2014-01-08 18:55:12 | <F_S> houz it means we need to double the effort on fundraising one year |
2014-01-08 18:55:33 | <gnokii> F_S: it looks he did at least some work as the communication for taticas/gustavs reimbursement shows |
2014-01-08 18:55:41 | <houz> not really, the money collected before doesn't need to be collected afterwards |
2014-01-08 18:56:11 | <houz> so, the conclusion of the sponsoring team seems to be that we need to get input from louis and nathan |
2014-01-08 18:56:22 | <houz> and ask google |
2014-01-08 18:56:30 | <F_S> i should not be getting into this ;-) but i am supporting all proposals to make it happen |
2014-01-08 18:56:38 | <F_S> houz yes |
2014-01-08 18:56:42 | * pippin vanishes in 3min; next expected step for me is expecting a .csv / spreadsheet to consider in a few ways for some days - about a day after next weeks meeting |
2014-01-08 18:57:00 | <houz> pippin: csv with what content? |
2014-01-08 18:57:08 | <F_S> all proposals |
2014-01-08 18:57:12 | <houz> ah, ok |
2014-01-08 18:57:44 | <F_S> does someone have clear thoughts on the selection process? |
2014-01-08 18:58:12 | <pippin> (what we did last year; was independent ranking of such a spreadsheet by the members of the content team; then merging in a google spreadsheet and reaching consensus) |
2014-01-08 18:58:15 | <houz> and who will be in the team? alexandre has a ? and some local team representative was supposed to be added IIRC |
2014-01-08 18:58:19 | <gnokii> just to note that, rooms are open from 9-20 |
2014-01-08 18:58:41 | <houz> could we please not take as long in the evenigns as in madrid? |
2014-01-08 18:58:51 | <F_S> ok, gnokii what is really important is to get a sense of how many proposals can be selected |
2014-01-08 18:58:58 | <houz> this is germany and a month earlier, people might like to see daylight eventually |
2014-01-08 18:59:05 | <F_S> ;-) |
2014-01-08 18:59:08 | <a-l-e> i think that we should know how many rooms and when we can place slots. |
2014-01-08 18:59:27 | * pippin will be back to read log later |
2014-01-08 18:59:36 | <F_S> later pippin |
2014-01-08 18:59:44 | <gnokii> a-l-e: so take a look into last meeting logs and you will find out how many rooms are there |
2014-01-08 18:59:51 | <houz> pippin: i will put it on http://houz.org/LGM/2014/ too |
2014-01-08 18:59:51 | <a-l-e> i guess that the first slot can start at 9:30, then. |
2014-01-08 19:00:17 | <houz> a-l-e: that probably also depends on the number of talks submitted/accepted |
2014-01-08 19:00:24 | <houz> let's wait for these numbers |
2014-01-08 19:00:47 | <a-l-e> number of accepted can depend on the available slots. |
2014-01-08 19:00:55 | <houz> sure, but not only |
2014-01-08 19:01:02 | <F_S> for selection team |
2014-01-08 19:01:07 | <houz> quality before quantity |
2014-01-08 19:01:11 | * plinnell (~mrdocs@opensuse/member/mrdocs) hat #LGM2014 betreten |
2014-01-08 19:01:13 | <pippin> a-l-e: anything but cofee/snacks before 10am is inhumane to the speakers that will get almost no audience :] |
2014-01-08 19:01:15 | <houz> yes, who is in that team? |
2014-01-08 19:01:20 | <gnokii> point is right now we have not many talks, we have a lot workshops |
2014-01-08 19:01:29 | <a-l-e> ok, starting at 10 might be fine. |
2014-01-08 19:01:36 | <pippin> gnokii: we know nothing until after deadline |
2014-01-08 19:01:40 | <houz> i would be fine with a workshop oriented lgm :) |
2014-01-08 19:01:42 | <pippin> *really gone* |
2014-01-08 19:01:47 | <gnokii> me to |
2014-01-08 19:01:55 | <F_S> houz i think that could be the case actually, and nice |
2014-01-08 19:02:11 | <F_S> (is my impression of what people are cooking up incl. me ;-)) |
2014-01-08 19:02:22 | <houz> i have the tendency to lose interest in most talks quickly and start chatting and hacking |
2014-01-08 19:02:23 | <F_S> anyhow, for the selection team |
2014-01-08 19:02:26 | <plinnell> i think that would please the scribus folks too |
2014-01-08 19:02:29 | <houz> but that's my personal problem |
2014-01-08 19:02:36 | <F_S> hello plinnell |
2014-01-08 19:02:40 | <houz> hi |
2014-01-08 19:02:44 | <plinnell> hi F_S |
2014-01-08 19:02:55 | <F_S> so eh |
2014-01-08 19:03:03 | <F_S> i asked for a local team member for the selection team, someone not LGM |
2014-01-08 19:03:04 | <plinnell> F_S: im planning to go, provided im not committed for a work event |
2014-01-08 19:03:12 | <F_S> great! |
2014-01-08 19:03:17 | <F_S> very good news |
2014-01-08 19:03:20 | <houz> Jon, Øyvind, Femke, Aleksandre?, Ale <-- madrid setting for the content team |
2014-01-08 19:03:39 | <houz> is alexandre in? |
2014-01-08 19:03:46 | <gnokii> good question |
2014-01-08 19:04:27 | * kasimir-leipzig (~me@wlan251098.rz.uni-leipzig.de) hat #LGM2014 betreten |
2014-01-08 19:04:33 | <houz> he's not reacting on a ping |
2014-01-08 19:04:38 | <F_S> he never confirmed himself. his status as team-glue has deserved him an open invitation ;-) |
2014-01-08 19:04:42 | <houz> kasimir-leipzig: hi |
2014-01-08 19:04:43 | <gnokii> he kasimir-leipzig |
2014-01-08 19:04:47 | <kasimir-leipzig> hi |
2014-01-08 19:05:28 | <houz> he answered |
2014-01-08 19:05:35 | <gnokii> should say who kasimir-leipzig is, he is my direct contact to the university leipzig and he organized all the rooms |
2014-01-08 19:05:42 | <houz> cool |
2014-01-08 19:05:52 | <F_S> ah hello kasimir-leipzig and thank you already! |
2014-01-08 19:05:57 | <houz> kasimir-leipzig: do you know the rz policy about using their network? |
2014-01-08 19:06:01 | <kasimir-leipzig> you're welcome:) |
2014-01-08 19:06:10 | <houz> mostly about open ports |
2014-01-08 19:06:14 | * prokoudine__ (~prokoudin@ppp83-237-254-248.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) hat #LGM2014 betreten |
2014-01-08 19:06:16 | <gnokii> houz: yes as that is published on university pages |
2014-01-08 19:06:18 | <houz> hi prokoudine__ |
2014-01-08 19:06:20 | <prokoudine__> lo |
2014-01-08 19:06:26 | <F_S> so who from the local team will be joining the selection? |
2014-01-08 19:06:37 | <F_S> ah speak of the devil hello prokoudine__ |
2014-01-08 19:06:39 | <houz> gnokii: the published things mostly forbid everythign in most universities |
2014-01-08 19:07:05 | <houz> prokoudine__: we are discussing the people in the selection team. and you are part of the list, at least with a ? |
2014-01-08 19:07:23 | <prokoudine__> i didn't realize there was a meeting today :) |
2014-01-08 19:07:33 | <gnokii> houz: there is an regulation for events, it says tell us what ports u want to be open and how many attendees u will have and which rooms u using so that rz can look at the wireless there |
2014-01-08 19:07:37 | <F_S> every wednesday from now on :-) |
2014-01-08 19:07:42 | <kasimir-leipzig> Usually the wi-fi access for conferences allows only the following ports: http(s) pop3(s) imap(s) vpn ssh |
2014-01-08 19:07:57 | <houz> secret cabal |
2014-01-08 19:08:02 | <gnokii> so we have to add ftp |
2014-01-08 19:08:11 | <prokoudine__> people will want ports for got, svn, mercurial, and bzr |
2014-01-08 19:08:13 | <kasimir-leipzig> The Wi-fi is available in all rooms with one password |
2014-01-08 19:08:14 | <prokoudine__> git |
2014-01-08 19:08:19 | <houz> and git |
2014-01-08 19:08:23 | <prokoudine__> ^^^ |
2014-01-08 19:08:33 | <F_S> prokoudine__: next week we'll select submissions - will you join? |
2014-01-08 19:08:35 | <houz> and IRC |
2014-01-08 19:08:37 | <prokoudine__> yes |
2014-01-08 19:08:41 | <kasimir-leipzig> Alright, I'm going to ask the admins for these ports. I think it will be possible |
2014-01-08 19:09:01 | <houz> how flexible are they to open more ports on short notice? |
2014-01-08 19:09:16 | <houz> i remember the folks from vienna, they did it within minutes :) |
2014-01-08 19:09:26 | <F_S> meaning 'yes i will be selecting too' (sorry not sure if you respond to networking q now) |
2014-01-08 19:09:28 | <houz> oh, jabber would be handy, too |
2014-01-08 19:09:56 | <kasimir-leipzig> From montay to friday they respond very fast, so I think it won't take long.. |
2014-01-08 19:10:04 | <houz> cool |
2014-01-08 19:10:55 | <houz> prokoudine__: can i remove the "?"? |
2014-01-08 19:11:05 | <houz> or, may i ... |
2014-01-08 19:11:16 | <gnokii> houz: but in vienna it was Jimmy and he was there as he is highly interested in Inkscape ;) |
2014-01-08 19:11:28 | <F_S> important that someone from local team / Leipzig joins discussion for selection. |
2014-01-08 19:11:51 | <gnokii> F_S did u write the HGB? |
2014-01-08 19:11:53 | <prokoudine__> houz, the what? |
2014-01-08 19:12:06 | <houz> the questionmark behind your name on the list of selection people |
2014-01-08 19:12:11 | <prokoudine__> sure |
2014-01-08 19:12:17 | <houz> done |
2014-01-08 19:12:22 | <F_S> who? gnokii are you up for some diplomacy ;-) |
2014-01-08 19:12:29 | <kasimir-leipzig> F_S: Well, I've less time, maybe Martin (is he here?) wants to do it for the local team. |
2014-01-08 19:12:44 | <F_S> gnokii: yes and not yet. am in contact via Christoph Haag with System Design department |
2014-01-08 19:12:48 | * prokoudine__ ist jetzt bekannt als prokoudine |
2014-01-08 19:13:14 | <houz> kasimir-leipzig: maybe you can ask around and tell us until next wednesday? |
2014-01-08 19:13:15 | <gnokii> F_S: the problem is if u want somebody local u can ask kasimir-leipzig |
2014-01-08 19:13:42 | <kasimir-leipzig> houz: Alright, I will ask him |
2014-01-08 19:14:02 | <houz> thanks |
2014-01-08 19:14:15 | <gnokii> poor Martin :D |
2014-01-08 19:14:25 | <houz> otherwise gnokii has to do it |
2014-01-08 19:14:46 | * gnokii does everything except being diplomatic |
2014-01-08 19:15:07 | * houz noticed ;) |
2014-01-08 19:15:34 | <houz> since mario is not here the point "travelassistance" can be skipped i guess? |
2014-01-08 19:15:50 | <houz> did anyone mention a need for a visa yet? |
2014-01-08 19:15:58 | <gnokii> yes one |
2014-01-08 19:16:14 | <gnokii> or two |
2014-01-08 19:16:16 | <houz> did he/she contact mario? |
2014-01-08 19:16:27 | <houz> since that is explicitly his job |
2014-01-08 19:17:06 | <gnokii> well one will be Konstantin, which I told yesterday to simply submit without any message on the question he had with the travel costs |
2014-01-08 19:17:29 | <houz> i guess he didn't get an answer because no one knows |
2014-01-08 19:17:29 | <gnokii> and the other one is Gustav but his travel depends on the reimbursement of 2013 |
2014-01-08 19:17:53 | <F_S> gnokii: did gustav get his money? |
2014-01-08 19:17:56 | <houz> ok, nothing we can do about right now |
2014-01-08 19:18:19 | <houz> he gets it via tatica |
2014-01-08 19:18:27 | <houz> whom i pinged but didn't get an answer |
2014-01-08 19:18:43 | <houz> when the meeting started |
2014-01-08 19:18:49 | <gnokii> F_S that is complicated, as the reimbursement goes to tatica and from both reimbursments we are after all money which was borrowed is paid back can be paid one ticket that of Gustav |
2014-01-08 19:18:50 | <a-l-e> on the infrasctructure side: plinnell, would it be possible to have an info@lgm email address? |
2014-01-08 19:19:12 | <plinnell> a-l-e: im adding it to my todo list |
2014-01-08 19:19:17 | <plinnell> should not be difficult |
2014-01-08 19:19:24 | <houz> who will receive that? |
2014-01-08 19:19:28 | <houz> just to the list? |
2014-01-08 19:19:34 | <houz> or specific persons? |
2014-01-08 19:19:48 | <F_S> ok don't really understand all of that gnokii - louis has paid reimbursements as far as asked for |
2014-01-08 19:19:52 | <a-l-e> that would be the next question... if it is possible to create, we should decide to whom it goes. |
2014-01-08 19:19:52 | <gnokii> +1 to ale request |
2014-01-08 19:20:18 | <F_S> should go to two people maybe? |
2014-01-08 19:20:21 | <gnokii> F_S well tatica plays wife and doesnt answer to questions so I dont know the status |
2014-01-08 19:20:26 | <a-l-e> forwarding to the lgm list could be one way to do it. |
2014-01-08 19:20:49 | <houz> F_S: thing is, i and others borrowed quite some money to tatica and gustav. and that gets paid back from the reimbursement. and only the rest can be used by gustav to pay for next year's ticket |
2014-01-08 19:21:54 | <houz> anyway, next to infrastructure |
2014-01-08 19:22:03 | <houz> afaics it's all up and running |
2014-01-08 19:22:22 | <houz> just the thing with the people able to peek into the submissions list is open |
2014-01-08 19:22:23 | <F_S> sorry i am trying not to get too much involved in this -- all i know is that late/insecure reimbursements create this kind of chaos that is to be avoided at all costs. just wished how to shift it |
2014-01-08 19:23:03 | <F_S> a-l-e: can you (based on the wp-templates you made for 2013) do something to show some kind of "stats" |
2014-01-08 19:23:04 | <houz> F_S: ack. i didn't even feel comfortable to mention reimbursements when inviting other projects to lgm |
2014-01-08 19:23:05 | <a-l-e> plinnell: so, it will probably just be a forward to one or multiple addresses. |
2014-01-08 19:23:29 | <plinnell> a-l-e: just mail me the details and i will get it done in the next 24 hours... traveling today |
2014-01-08 19:23:32 | <a-l-e> F_S: i can do (almost) any stats on the entries for the forms. |
2014-01-08 19:23:36 | <F_S> houz i am with you on this. i can't sleep if i think about it but don't know how to solve it |
2014-01-08 19:23:57 | <houz> i migth have some old socks in my drawer, so we could rob a bank ... |
2014-01-08 19:23:58 | <F_S> a-l-e: some fun things would be nice, jus to get a sense something is happening |
2014-01-08 19:24:06 | <houz> damn, i shouldn't have said that on record |
2014-01-08 19:24:14 | <F_S> haha |
2014-01-08 19:24:54 | <houz> so, do we agree that the actual list should stay closed and only the finally selected proposals get revealed? |
2014-01-08 19:24:55 | <F_S> ok a-l-e it is just for this week so what about some live stats |
2014-01-08 19:24:59 | <houz> as pippin asked for |
2014-01-08 19:25:11 | <gnokii> +1 |
2014-01-08 19:25:37 | <a-l-e> personally, i'm for giving acces to the entries to the content team + anybody in the organisation who asks for. |
2014-01-08 19:26:02 | <gnokii> point is as Louis stated LGM is for meet ppl not listen talks |
2014-01-08 19:26:03 | <F_S> pippin suggested only access by content team |
2014-01-08 19:26:26 | <houz> thing is there isn't a set organizers group. many people on that list never did anything (or at least didn't report back about it) while others are not on the list |
2014-01-08 19:26:40 | <gnokii> +1 |
2014-01-08 19:26:52 | <a-l-e> people who are on the list and who ask for are probably caring for the lgm. |
2014-01-08 19:26:55 | <a-l-e> it's enough for me. |
2014-01-08 19:27:10 | <houz> so we can't agree |
2014-01-08 19:27:18 | <a-l-e> but that's only *my* opinion. |
2014-01-08 19:27:35 | <F_S> i am not so worried about things leaking but thing is that reimbursement requests are in same wordpress and so could mean that admin access might create issues? |
2014-01-08 19:27:38 | <prokoudine> +1 for just content team |
2014-01-08 19:27:48 | <gnokii> F_S +++ |
2014-01-08 19:28:21 | <gnokii> that's exact the point access to it means to all formulars |
2014-01-08 19:28:27 | <gnokii> not only submissions |
2014-01-08 19:28:39 | <a-l-e> i can only give access to all or no forms. |
2014-01-08 19:28:52 | <F_S> so again, i prefer to think about a system where also reimbursement is transparent |
2014-01-08 19:28:57 | <F_S> can be transparent |
2014-01-08 19:29:03 | <a-l-e> but i don't think that we ever had issues with information leaking. |
2014-01-08 19:29:20 | <F_S> but currently it is super messy |
2014-01-08 19:29:42 | <a-l-e> ah, and if you want my opinion, reimbursement must be solved. |
2014-01-08 19:29:42 | <houz> then maybe set up some rules/ideas for next year and keep it closed for one more week |
2014-01-08 19:29:53 | <F_S> houz: i agree |
2014-01-08 19:29:57 | <gnokii> ++ |
2014-01-08 19:30:03 | <a-l-e> but that's a separate issue than the access to the forms. |
2014-01-08 19:30:22 | <F_S> to me, if reimbursement is cleared up, the problem goes away |
2014-01-08 19:30:38 | <houz> about reimbursement, as i said in one of the last irc meetings, i am happy to help with that, provided it's just the workload that delays them. if it's a lack of money there isn't much i could do |
2014-01-08 19:30:54 | <F_S> houz your help would be very much appreciated |
2014-01-08 19:31:08 | <a-l-e> the problem is, that it's not clear what is delaying it. |
2014-01-08 19:31:08 | <houz> but that's one of the questions i asked earlier, how much money do we have |
2014-01-08 19:31:25 | <a-l-e> what is most likely, it's paperwork that has been done locally. |
2014-01-08 19:31:42 | <houz> i agree that there isn't much we can do about that right now, probably not even before a real life meeting in leipzig |
2014-01-08 19:32:06 | <houz> i am not sure what paperwork needs to be done to send some money around, but well |
2014-01-08 19:32:14 | <a-l-e> based on the past experience, it will also be hard to solve with a real life meeting in leipzig. |
2014-01-08 19:32:15 | <F_S> but it would be really good if you can prepare a separate, private meeting with louis |
2014-01-08 19:32:21 | <F_S> houz i mean |
2014-01-08 19:32:39 | <F_S> to see what the issue is, so it is not about blame |
2014-01-08 19:32:49 | <houz> i know that he was offered help from another side in the last weeks and declined |
2014-01-08 19:32:58 | <a-l-e> the bank and the taxes want to see paperwork. |
2014-01-08 19:33:20 | <houz> ok, let's quickly finish the team list and then i would like to come back to this topic |
2014-01-08 19:33:22 | <F_S> but that is normal |
2014-01-08 19:33:32 | <houz> last point is lgm2015 |
2014-01-08 19:33:41 | <gnokii> ur last point |
2014-01-08 19:33:42 | <F_S> ok - i will need to leave in 15 mins |
2014-01-08 19:34:02 | <a-l-e> (so F_S, if you have ideas for funny activity signals, just mail me / the lgm list) |
2014-01-08 19:34:03 | <houz> gnokii: last point of the team list |
2014-01-08 19:34:29 | <houz> has there been any location proposal yet? |
2014-01-08 19:34:54 | <gnokii> so far nobody cried about what I did for 2015, question is havent they seen it or does they not care ;) |
2014-01-08 19:34:54 | <F_S> wondering: does that need to be the same 15/1 deadline? |
2014-01-08 19:35:14 | <houz> i wound't think so |
2014-01-08 19:35:17 | <gnokii> F_S that was one of my question but I didnt mention any deadline ;) |
2014-01-08 19:35:20 | <houz> there is nothing to decide in advance |
2014-01-08 19:35:45 | <houz> it should just be handed in early enough for us to ask back |
2014-01-08 19:36:04 | <F_S> apologies gnokii |
2014-01-08 19:36:07 | <F_S> yes |
2014-01-08 19:36:35 | <gnokii> so do we want set a deadline to it? |
2014-01-08 19:36:48 | <F_S> so 15 february? or just before meeting starts> |
2014-01-08 19:37:06 | <houz> 15. march? |
2014-01-08 19:37:07 | <gnokii> can be mid march |
2014-01-08 19:37:12 | <houz> half a month till the meeting |
2014-01-08 19:37:15 | <F_S> yes ouy are right |
2014-01-08 19:37:51 | <gnokii> one thing more |
2014-01-08 19:37:57 | <F_S> ok 15 march agreed? |
2014-01-08 19:38:02 | <gnokii> +1 |
2014-01-08 19:38:03 | <houz> and announce that prominently on the relevant lists. i guess people eager to host lgm are on one of our lists |
2014-01-08 19:38:08 | <gnokii> +1 |
2014-01-08 19:38:21 | <F_S> yes. |
2014-01-08 19:38:33 | <houz> fine |
2014-01-08 19:38:40 | <F_S> it is a good way to call attention to new style long term libre graphics meeting |
2014-01-08 19:38:46 | <gnokii> proposals have to be submitted this way, no sneak in for Montreal |
2014-01-08 19:38:56 | <F_S> meaning: we are not going adhoc this time |
2014-01-08 19:39:00 | <houz> oh, and please as a new mail, not a reply deep in some thread |
2014-01-08 19:39:10 | <F_S> yeah |
2014-01-08 19:39:19 | <houz> i had to look for the cfp a while |
2014-01-08 19:41:04 | <houz> so, my last point for tonight which brings us back to the monetary stuff |
2014-01-08 19:41:29 | <houz> on lgm the darktable project will most likely found some kind of legal organization |
2014-01-08 19:41:44 | <houz> to be able to collect donations |
2014-01-08 19:41:53 | <houz> currently we tell everyone "give it to lgm" |
2014-01-08 19:42:11 | <houz> this migth be a good idea to bring back the discussion about a lgf |
2014-01-08 19:42:19 | <houz> (libre graphics foundation) |
2014-01-08 19:42:25 | <prokoudine> oh noez |
2014-01-08 19:42:27 | <prokoudine> :) |
2014-01-08 19:42:33 | <houz> we don't have to discuss this today |
2014-01-08 19:42:34 | <patdavid> prokoudine: haha |
2014-01-08 19:42:41 | <a-l-e> personally, i'm not sure that a discussion at the lgm will bring us much... |
2014-01-08 19:42:45 | <houz> i just want to bring the topic up so you can think about it |
2014-01-08 19:42:55 | <prokoudine> houz, i was looking for "never" :) |
2014-01-08 19:42:58 | <a-l-e> ... except if somebody comes up with a clear proposal as a basis of discussion. |
2014-01-08 19:43:28 | <gnokii> well 7 ppl meet and its done |
2014-01-08 19:43:32 | <prokoudine> is this a good time for odd questions about lgm? |
2014-01-08 19:43:40 | <F_S> a-l-e: agree |
2014-01-08 19:43:45 | <houz> i only know that there were ideas in the past. no idea how much work had been put into these |
2014-01-08 19:44:37 | <F_S> there was work done, a few times but noone has been able to commit plus come up with enough energy to push it through |
2014-01-08 19:44:56 | <houz> it just might be nice to have some legal body that can handle money and get sued if anything doesn't work out |
2014-01-08 19:45:03 | <a-l-e> to me just bringing an alternative way to manage the money would already be a very welcome improvement. |
2014-01-08 19:45:13 | <F_S> a-l-e: agree |
2014-01-08 19:45:31 | <F_S> i think reimbursements is lgm achilles heel and this is priority |
2014-01-08 19:45:39 | <gnokii> ++ |
2014-01-08 19:45:40 | <a-l-e> the current solution does not seem to work. but we don't have an alternative. |
2014-01-08 19:45:43 | <houz> so gnokii, you had another point? |
2014-01-08 19:45:48 | <gnokii> two |
2014-01-08 19:46:05 | <gnokii> one point is an half program related |
2014-01-08 19:46:09 | <F_S> ok go |
2014-01-08 19:46:16 | <a-l-e> so, if somebody can come up with an alternative, we will have a good point to start a discussion. |
2014-01-08 19:46:58 | <gnokii> well as I told we could have the chance to screen print our own shirts on LGM if we want, but that brings some problems. Most problem is the time |
2014-01-08 19:47:28 | <F_S> ok |
2014-01-08 19:47:47 | <F_S> so what could be done? do you need people to help print shirts? and when? |
2014-01-08 19:47:55 | <gnokii> Sebastian, who would do it with us, would submit an workshop how screen printing at home can be done, but he doesnt like to print more then 200 shirts |
2014-01-08 19:48:20 | <F_S> do you think you need many more? |
2014-01-08 19:48:37 | <houz> so we would have to have the setup in a corner runnign the whole event |
2014-01-08 19:48:43 | <F_S> fun |
2014-01-08 19:48:45 | <gnokii> F_S well problem is what does 450 participants mean |
2014-01-08 19:48:58 | <F_S> hey won't buy a t-shirt each |
2014-01-08 19:49:01 | <F_S> they |
2014-01-08 19:49:09 | <gnokii> houz: that was my idea, and I hope Sebastian can accept this |
2014-01-08 19:49:29 | <houz> how many shirts did we sell last years? and how was the relation people there / number of shirts sold? |
2014-01-08 19:49:33 | <F_S> anyway ... or to have a workshop for first two days |
2014-01-08 19:49:54 | <F_S> i can ask - was another org, but more like 75 |
2014-01-08 19:50:14 | <F_S> a-l-e: how many in vienna? you remember? |
2014-01-08 19:50:15 | <houz> that sounds feasible |
2014-01-08 19:50:24 | <gnokii> well if it was only that few that would be no problem, but at one point I have to buy the shirts |
2014-01-08 19:50:39 | <a-l-e> no idea about vienna, but they were not that many... |
2014-01-08 19:50:43 | <a-l-e> for not more than 100. |
2014-01-08 19:50:54 | <a-l-e> for sure not more than 100. |
2014-01-08 19:50:56 | <F_S> aprons we had 250 i think but we gave one away to each volunteer |
2014-01-08 19:51:02 | <a-l-e> but i would not take it as a reference. |
2014-01-08 19:51:10 | <F_S> in 2010, with 300 participants |
2014-01-08 19:51:17 | <gnokii> F_S that was my idea to but buying printed ones is more expensive |
2014-01-08 19:51:34 | <F_S> ok sounds you know what you are doing ;-) |
2014-01-08 19:51:46 | * houz didn't get an apron, they were sold out :( |
2014-01-08 19:51:51 | <F_S> ohhh |
2014-01-08 19:52:09 | <gnokii> so 200 would be enough? |
2014-01-08 19:52:13 | <F_S> yes |
2014-01-08 19:52:13 | <houz> yes |
2014-01-08 19:52:16 | <gnokii> ok |
2014-01-08 19:52:18 | <F_S> confirmed |
2014-01-08 19:52:26 | <gnokii> so second point |
2014-01-08 19:52:30 | <houz> pink |
2014-01-08 19:52:31 | <F_S> last!! |
2014-01-08 19:52:38 | <F_S> houz pink apron? |
2014-01-08 19:52:40 | <F_S> ;-) |
2014-01-08 19:52:44 | <a-l-e> we could have a t-shirt list... so that people having registered in advance can be sure to have t-shirt... |
2014-01-08 19:52:48 | <houz> i thought the 2nd question was about shirt colors :) |
2014-01-08 19:52:54 | <F_S> haha |
2014-01-08 19:53:02 | <a-l-e> ... and casual visitors can buy one if there are any left. |
2014-01-08 19:53:07 | <houz> a-l-e: +1 |
2014-01-08 19:53:21 | <gnokii> I wrote Gottfried to submit Blender talks, so Gottfried will do that but he did with me some Open Movie Nights in Nuremberg and want to do that for LGM this year |
2014-01-08 19:53:39 | <F_S> ok nice so a nighttime event? |
2014-01-08 19:53:51 | <gnokii> the status about that is that he searches for the place right now |
2014-01-08 19:54:00 | <F_S> in Leipzig, not Nuremberg i'd hope ;-) |
2014-01-08 19:54:04 | <F_S> ok good news |
2014-01-08 19:54:11 | <gnokii> kasimir-leipzig: are u connected to the university cinema ? |
2014-01-08 19:54:22 | <kasimir-leipzig> University cinema... I'm not sure if that exists at all |
2014-01-08 19:54:24 | <gnokii> F_S: in Leipzig of course |
2014-01-08 19:54:33 | <gnokii> kasimir-leipzig: there exists one |
2014-01-08 19:54:46 | <prokoudine> or just make "I want T-Shirt" part of registration |
2014-01-08 19:54:50 | <gnokii> so in generally is there interest in? |
2014-01-08 19:54:51 | <kasimir-leipzig> cinema as in "watching movies"? |
2014-01-08 19:54:58 | <houz> prokoudine: too late, registration is already open |
2014-01-08 19:55:01 | <gnokii> kasimir-leipzig: yes |
2014-01-08 19:55:06 | <F_S> ok, i am off ... |
2014-01-08 19:55:10 | <F_S> i'll try to dig up figures for reimbursement before next week wednesday meeting, think with ale on showing submissions without disclosing, get my network to submit proposals, work on connection to Hochschule für Grafik und Buchkunst. |
2014-01-08 19:55:11 | <houz> F_S: bye |
2014-01-08 19:55:30 | <prokoudine> houz, so? email those who already registered |
2014-01-08 19:55:30 | <gnokii> F_S yeah bye have a nice evening |
2014-01-08 19:55:36 | <F_S> will need to skip next week but will update before wed 15 18:00 |
2014-01-08 19:55:46 | <kasimir-leipzig> gnokii: If you send me a link, I can get a connection to it :) |
2014-01-08 19:55:48 | <F_S> thanks for constructive meet. |
2014-01-08 19:55:51 | <gnokii> prokoudine: doesnt hurt me with 200 |
2014-01-08 19:55:57 | * F_S (~fs@77.109.117.114.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net) hat #LGM2014 verlassen |
2014-01-08 19:56:02 | <gnokii> kasimir-leipzig: ok, then we are on track |
2014-01-08 19:56:24 | * houz couldn't find anything about a university cinema in L |
2014-01-08 19:56:44 | <gnokii> houz: u will not find the one in Chemnitz to |
2014-01-08 19:57:36 | <houz> if it's not on the web it doesn't exist :) |
2014-01-08 19:57:40 | <kasimir-leipzig> :D |
2014-01-08 19:58:14 | <gnokii> well kasimir-leipzig lets work the next days on that |
2014-01-08 19:58:18 | <kasimir-leipzig> alright |
2014-01-08 19:58:28 | <houz> gnokii, kasimir-leipzig: can you get in touch with that cinema until next week's meeting? |
2014-01-08 19:58:29 | <gnokii> so then everything from me |
2014-01-08 19:58:56 | <gnokii> houz: thats really a short term |
2014-01-08 19:59:08 | <gnokii> there are 4 parties involved |
2014-01-08 19:59:27 | <houz> at least do your side, i.e. write them a mail or something. if they react in time: fine, if not: not your fault |
2014-01-08 19:59:57 | <houz> what parties? |
2014-01-08 20:00:16 | <gnokii> kasimir-leipzig: me, Gottfried and the cinema ;) |
2014-01-08 20:01:29 | <houz> well, gottfried already said that he wants to do it, you want to do it, too. and you can talk to kasimir-leipzig now |
2014-01-08 20:01:50 | <houz> so it's the cinema that has to be asked if they still exist, are free and willing to host us |
2014-01-08 20:01:59 | <gnokii> but first I have to ask him if he found already a place ;) |
2014-01-08 20:02:09 | <houz> sure |
2014-01-08 20:02:17 | <kasimir-leipzig> If you provide me any information to find the cinema (I've never heard about it), then it won't take long to get in contact |
2014-01-08 20:02:44 | <gnokii> kasimir-leipzig: I will do, I just did a short research as Gottfried told me |
2014-01-08 20:03:02 | <kasimir-leipzig> gnokii: great! |
2014-01-08 20:03:48 | <gnokii> ok everythin fine now? |
2014-01-08 20:03:57 | <kasimir-leipzig> yes |
2014-01-08 20:04:13 | <houz> so, any more topics for the meeting? |
2014-01-08 20:04:43 | <a-l-e> ... http://www.unikino-leipzig.de ... |
2014-01-08 20:04:56 | <houz> a-l-e: no, that's another institution |
2014-01-08 20:05:00 | <a-l-e> ... is on hold... |
2014-01-08 20:05:30 | <gnokii> a-l-e: wrong thats the company who makes cinema on universities |
2014-01-08 20:06:16 | <houz> ah, one more question from me towards the leipzig team: are there plans to do some events before/after lgm? like the museum visits done before? |
2014-01-08 20:06:17 | <kasimir-leipzig> Maybe there is a group called university cinema, but afaik there is no dedicated room. they have shown the movies in a lecture hall, but these lecture halls are usually closing at 6 pm in the holidays.. |
2014-01-08 20:06:48 | <kasimir-leipzig> houz: That's mainly martins part... |
2014-01-08 20:07:09 | <kasimir-leipzig> ... so I can't say anything about that right now |
2014-01-08 20:07:13 | <houz> ok |
2014-01-08 20:07:40 | <houz> maybe we should fly him in next week. one free internet for that man |
2014-01-08 20:08:04 | <houz> if he organizes soemthing nice he gets rewarded with a place in the talk selection commitee |
2014-01-08 20:08:11 | <gnokii> houz: have spoken with Martin about such things |
2014-01-08 20:08:50 | <houz> -v |
2014-01-08 20:09:19 | <gnokii> the problem for Martin right now is he did sit in a train from work to home as meeting started |
2014-01-08 20:09:42 | <houz> no problem |
2014-01-08 20:09:50 | <houz> i am just curious |
2014-01-08 20:10:04 | <gnokii> there are some plans like the Panometer ;) |
2014-01-08 20:10:48 | <houz> that's cool |
2014-01-08 20:11:02 | <houz> let's do the movie night in there ^^ |
2014-01-08 20:11:11 | <gnokii> ok, so we are finished then I can make a phone call |
2014-01-08 20:11:21 | <houz> ok |
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